Hi,
Are there any document to understand what are PI values that FM can understand. For example, if my XML has a PI like <?FM pagebreak?> will FM apply forced page break? This is something possible in 3B2.
<xml>
<para>some text</para>
<?FM pagebreak?>
<para>some text</para>
</xml>
When I import the XML in FM, I want the second <para> to appear in the next page. My question is about what are the PI values that FM can recognise? Thanks in advance.
Hi
I'm trying to generate PDF2/XHTML using the DITA Open Toolkit with FrameMaker 12 but nothing happens when building the output.
I can see the command line start but is then immediately shutdown, and there is nothing generated in the output folder.
I have installed the Java JDK and set the Java_Home variable (before that the output options box didn't open).
Do anyone have a glue what is wrong?
I got a new laptop and installed FM10. To avoid getting the License expired error, I tried installing TCS update 3. But the system displays an error Adobe Application Manager may be damaged. I re-installed Adobe Applicaiton Manager, but still the same error.
I am almost killed by this. By the way, I am converting unstructured to sturctured.
I have a paragraph that contains a number of inline elements, such as a <link> and a <uicontrol>. When these are only separated by a whitespace (which is significant in this case, as it separates the characters in the <link> from the characters in the <uicontrol>, the XML file produced by FM has replaced the whitespace with a carriage return, which of course disappears as it is supposed to be meaningless in XML.
I have tried to set the "preserve line breaks" rule on the enclosing <p> element but, apart from the fact that this is not what I intend to do, it does not make any difference on the whitespace between the two inline elements.
Is there any way to make FM not perform this obvious mistake? Or do I really have to use ExtendScript to first change the whitespace to a special <whitespace> character, so that this is kept in the XML output and can then be changed back into a regular whitespace by my XSLT (which I need in any case). Kind of ugly but it would work. If there is an easier way to do this, please tell me about it.
Ciao
Jang
Hello,
I'm running FrameMaker 12 on Windows 7.
When I startup the program, I must select one of the follow three.(in 'Choose Interface' window.)
- FrameMaker
- Structured FrameMaker
- FrameMaker XML Author
Unfortunately, after clicking 'Structured FrameMaker' or 'FrameMaker XML Author', error is occurred.
Error message is follows.
- Internal Error 12004, 23459156, 23459450, 26389685. FrameMaker has detected a serious problem and must quit.
Please, I hope that I receive a good solution.
Best Regard.
I'm trying to set the column widths of a table in framemaker by importing the width from an attribute in the imported xml file. But it doesn't work...
This is from my read/write rules:
element "ITEM-CELL-LIST"
{
is fm table cell element;
attribute "width" is fm property column width;
fm property column width value is "2cm";
}
The last line that specifies the width to 2cm seems to be accepted as I can save the EDD as DTD without errors, but it has no effect on the actual widths of the table created.
The line above it doesn't work at all. When I try to save the EDD, I get the following error: "Invalid property specified for the element (ITEM-CELL-LIST)."
I've tried every way I can think of, but nothing seems to work
The only way I've been able to actually set the widths is by creating a table in the master template page and resizing the columns. That carries over to the imported xml.
Hi All,
Using structured FM 11 on Windows 7.
I need a way to round-trip paragraph format tags. I know it is easy to assign them on import with the EDD, but I'm not sure how to save them on export.
I was hoping the read/write rules could contain something along the lines of:
attribute "paraFormat" is fm property paragraph format tag;
I figure it can probably be done with ExtendScript or a custom API, but I would rather avoid these if possible.
Thanks!
Trevor
Hi all,
I am having trouble getting our structured app/template to apply master pages properly. We're on Frame 11 using an XDocbook, customized app.
Here is the configuration:
1. Reference page structMasterPageMap:
2. Frame XML document content:
<bookinfo>
<title>
<edition>
<copyright>
</bookinfo>
As you can see, this doc does not yet have a PrefaceInfo element, although one is allowed by the DTD. So the obvious solution is to either: 1) add one (wrap the <copyright> element in a <prefaceinfo> element as allowed); or 2) add an "E:Copyright" mapping to the ref page. Yet, neither of these work. Here's what occurs:
Solution A: On the Ref page, add a mapping from E:Copyright to the "Frontmatter" master page:
1. Open the document in Frame and note that the master page Title Page is applied, but the master page Frontmatter is not, as expected.
2. On the ref page, add the E:Copyright mapping to apply the Frontmatter master page.
3. Reapply Master Pages, and the Frontmatter page is applied, as expected. All is good....except. When you close and then re-open the document, no master pages are applied, not even the Title Page which had previous worked. Huh, what?
4. Remove the E:Copyright mapping from the ref page, reapply Master Pages, and the Title Page master page is again applied.
Note: This behavior is reproducible whether I replace the E:PrefaceInfo with E:Copyright on the reference page, or retain both. I can also reproduce this by using the paragraph tag instead, of the element, i.e. P:FrontmatterCopyright.
Solution B: In the document, add a <prefaceinfo> element:
1. Open the document in Frame and note that the Title Page master page is applied while the Frontmatter is not, which is expected.
2. Wrap the <copyright> element in <prefaceinfo>.
3. Reapply Master Pages. Nothing happens, i.e. the Frontmatter master page is not applied.
4. Save, close, and reopen the document. The Title page is applied, but the Frontmatter is not.
Yes, I have checked and rechecked that the actual master page names match those entered into the reference pages, including case. :-)
Possible conflicts/factors?
1. Could the structure of the document (as allowed by the DTD) affect master page application? The element <copyright> can exist both inside a <prefaceinfo> and independently under <bookinfo>. This doesn't seem likely, especially because as a test, I saved the doc as .fm, discarded the structure, updated the ref page to use para tags instead -- and still the master pages are not applied correctly.
2. Pagination can affect this -- at first we had Format>Page Layout>Pagination set to "Single Sided" so I thought that was why the left-hand Frontmatter was being ignored. But I have ruled that out; the template is now double sided, and Frontmatter is a left page.
I am stumped! Thanks in advance for any ideas.
- Shelley
Shelley Hoose
Sr. Docs Developer, Rogue Wave Software
We have a process for typesetting large amounts of text which involves importing SGML content into FM11, and then importing formats and element definitions onto that content.
We recently upgraded from using FM6, and with that previous version of FrameMaker, when the content contained an unusual entity (e.g. a letter i with a macron above it), the system would default to using a different font in which we had the correct symbol for the entity. Unfortunately we cannot work out how to get FM11 to replicate this, so end up with question marks replacing the entity.
We do not currently use a Structure Application or DTD, and have a very simple default.rw file:
fm version is "11.0";
/*
* Include all ISO entity mapping rules.
*/
#include "isoall.rw"
element "Paddr" is fm footnote element;
element "Paddrstart" is fm footnote element;
What is the best way to get FM11 to recognise that these entities need to use a different font? I've tried looking in the various online documentation pdfs, but couldn't see how to solve this problem.
Thanks
Katy
Seems to me that EDD is a huge document to find anything in. Does one just add elements in alphabetical order so they can be rediscovered? Any tips or tricks about organizing this?
I'm in the analysis/design phase of going through my unstructured document to see how to build an EDD. Does one do the analysis using a spreadsheet?
Thanks for ideas.
Forced return (linefeed), non-breaking hyphens and spaces, suppress hyphenation.
None of these are preserved when exporting from FrameMaker to XML, since they do not seem to be represented by a Unicode code point. My question to you is: How do you deal with those things in XML?
The last issues (non-breaking and suppress hyphen) have recently been brought up in:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/450363
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/459503
Forced return is a common thing in many FrameMaker documents to improve readability of certain phrases.
For export of FM to XML, there have been proposals to use a special element with a prefix just to capture the special FrameMaker symbol. It works, and may be a valid useful path in certain cases, but I think that it is a questionable way of dealing with it for several reasons:
If the last point could be solved, i.e if all those control characters or markers could automatically be translated to a suitable XML representation, then I would consider the whole issue as solved, otherwise not.
Even without FrameMaker, how do people deal with these things in "pure xml". For instance, when XML is used for publishing (which I know Arnis Gubins is doing), there will guaranteed be a need to control both hyphenation and line breaks. So how do you (they) do that?
How do other vendors cope with these issues, e.g XPP?
I'm using FM8 in Tech Comm Suite 1 in an XP environment.
I am using the ph tag to indicate changes. This tag inserts a change bar in the left margin and also highlights the revised text in magenta.
However, when I generate the book file, I will sometimes get change bars and sometimes not.
Any ideas?
I can easily generate CHM and PDF using the Generate Output option offered by DITA-FMx, but the output is just standard and I would like to customize it according to the company style. Which files should I work on to modify fonts, colours, indentation, etc, both for CHM and PDF?
I'm looking for a guide explaining all the operators that may be used in the Wrap this object or objects column of a conversion table. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
Thanks.
Hi all,
I have saved a FrameMaker document as an XML file and would like to import it back to FrameMaker. I am guessing it needs a little more skills and attention than just hitting "Open file" cause previous attempts to convert that xml file back to how it used to look in FrameMaker obviously failed.
I am importing it back to the same system so the styles and everything are exactly the same.
The idea behind this is that my boss wishes to check in the manual with every software release so a specific version of the manual for a specific release can be recreated at any time. Just that I have no idea how that will work if I cant import it back into FrameMaker to convert it into the manual I'd need. I am not familiar with the structured operation and I am desperately hoping theres a solution I can work with.
Thank you!!!
I'm running FrameMaker 11 on Windows 7. I just changed the settings from unstructured to structured Frame and restarted my computer. Now FrameMaker comes up for a few seconds and goes away. Is there something I can do to get FrameMaker to launch?
Hello,
First post on the forums in a long time, and first here altogether. I hope it's okay to jump in.
I have a bit of unstructured FM experience from several years ago and have been using Ventura since (13 years) for my company's books (longish directories--3,000+/volume). I've done some scripts in Ventura so have a little programming experience.
We're looking to switch to XML rather than the tagged text files Ventura can import because of its lack of support, problems possibly due to Win7, and the effort needed to maintain the import files. I've downloaded the FM 11 trial and have been experimenting a little with roundtripping XML and also importing what we already have in XML. So a few I'm sure very basic questions; and thanks in advance:
I've been going through the Adobe tutorials and whatever else I can find online. There don't seem to be any well-reviewed books on Amazon that deal with structured FM 9-11. Some that look promising for XML are about 10 years old--I don't think our needs are cutting edge so should I get something that old, or stick with newer even if there are complaints? Any recommendations? If I can get the hang of it with something that isn't FM specific will it be really hard to adapt that knowledge to FM?
I'm finding EDD, DTD, and Schema to be rather confusing. Would someone explain the difference in simple terms or point me to a video, etc? Assuming I'm starting with an XML file created for another purpose not meant for FM, do I need more than one of these? Do you do one first?
With Ventura if I want to have two discrete pieces of data (off the database) on the same line, say one left aligned and the other right aligned, the programmers put the two together with a tab, and that's controlled by a paragraph tag in Ventura with a right tab. With XML, if I'm understanding it correctly, you wouldn't do that in the XML file--I'm probably not ready to understand the method, just want to know if that's possible without doing something like having the second item's paragraph properties set to have no line break. If so, where would that be specified, EDD, DTD, etc?
Can XML into FM include graphics inline? How about an Excel chart?
Thank you,
Gary
In the office where I work, we are upgrading from Structured FrameMaker 8 in Win XP to Structured FrameMaker 11 in Win 7. Part of the work that I do involves importing xml feeds into Structured FrameMaker templates using an automated process. As I am testing the importing into FM 11 I am noticing that the special character code used for a horizontal tab - 	 - is not translating into a tab after the xml feed has been imported into the FM 11 template. It does translate into a horizontal tab when imported into FM 8. What special character code should be used for horizontal tabs in FM11?
I watched a webinar posted on the adobe website called "How to Optimize content for smooth migration into XML/DITA" and in the conversion, it showed an element called dita (root) and elements called topic before the main content. I took a class in DITA authoring last month and we learned about elements such as reference and then refbody and concept and conbody. The class I took did not go into how to use DITA in FrameMaker which is what I need to figure out now.
I'm using FM 10. I have a conversion table that is working pretty well, however, I understand that I need to import an EDD and a template into the files I convert.
My questions are:
What template and EDD file do I use? There are so many of them in the Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker10\Structure\xml\DITA_1.2\app folder. In the DITA folder there are folders for concept, and reference and task that look correct. However, in the DITA_1.2 folder I have no idea where to start.
Is there any documentation for DITA_1.2 for FrameMaker 10? Or books or Help or anything for someone new to using DITA in FrameMaker. I looked at the FM 10 Help for DITA, but it does not really cover when you are converting existing documents, just creating new topics.
Thank you for any information you can provide.
Karene